Utopia Talk / Politics / Pete Hegseth: Wrecked by his own mother

murder Member	Sat Nov 30 11:14:37 Hegseth’s mother complained about his treatment of women The mother of Pete Hegseth, President-elect Trump’s pick for Defense secretary, reportedly sent him an email in 2018 accusing the former Fox News host of “routinely mistreating women for years” and displaying a “lack of character,” The New York Times reported on Friday. “On behalf of all the women (and I know it’s many) you have abused in some way, I say … get some help and take an honest look at yourself,” Penelope Hegseth wrote to her son, according to text of the email published by the Times. “I have no respect for any man that belittles, lies, cheats, sleeps around and uses women for his own power and ego. You are that man (and have been for years) and as your mother, it pains me and embarrasses me to say that, but it is the sad, sad truth,” she added, according to The Times. In a phone interview with The Times, Penelope Hegseth said that she sent a follow-up message at the time apologizing for her original email, claiming she sent the email “in anger, with emotion” when her son and his wife were going through a divorce. “It is not true. It has never been true,” she told The Times. “I know my son. He is a good father, husband,” she added, also saying the email getting published was “disgusting.” Trump communications director Steven Cheung called The Times’s airing of the email “despicable.” “The New York Times is despicable for using an out-of-context snippet of an illegally-obtained private email exchange between a mother and her son that does not accurately reflect the entirety of the conversation. In subsequent emails, Mrs. Hegseth expressed regret for her emotional message and apologized,” Cheung said in an emailed statement. The New York Times said the email was obtained from someone with ties to the Hegseth family. Hegseth has come under fire over allegations that he sexually assaulted a woman in 2017, which surfaced after Trump shocked many in Washington by picking the Army veteran and longtime TV host to lead the Pentagon. Hegseth has denied the allegations of wrongdoing, and said the encounter was consensual. Timothy Parlatore, Pete Hegseth’s lawyer, said his client “is completely innocent.” “He was cleared after a police investigation determined that the woman was the aggressor in the situation and was then the subject of blackmail. False claims like this undermine the gravity of real sexual assault cases,” Parlatore said in the statement. Pete Hegseth has also faced criticism for saying in a recent interview that women should not hold combat roles in the military and his calls to eliminate “woke” generals from the Pentagon, including Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. C.Q. Brown. While no Republican senators have outright opposed his confirmation, some have expressed skepticism about the pick. Only four Republicans would need to side with Democrats in opposing Hegseth’s nomination to tank his chances. http://the...gseth-nomination-mother-women/
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 30 12:20:24 Trump's childish shitbag spokesman Cheung: "The New York Times is despicable for using an out-of-context snippet of an illegally-obtained private email..." him using Trump's regular made-up 'illegal' claim... *eyeroll* plus here's the full email text (not out-of-context snippet), that the NY Times also had posted: (email sent when Pete going thru a divorce from wife #2, after having had a child w/ soon wife #3 while still married to #2. "One sentence was redacted by The New York Times for privacy reasons.") -------------- " Son, I have tried to keep quiet about your character and behavior, but after listening to the way you made Samantha feel today, I cannot stay silent. And as a woman and your mother I feel I must speak out.. You are an abuser of women — that is the ugly truth and I have no respect for any man that belittles, lies, cheats, sleeps around, and uses women for his own power and ego. You are that man (and have been for years) and as your mother, it pains me and embarrasses me to say that, but it is the sad, sad truth. I am not a saint, far from it.. so don’t throw that in my face,. but your abuse over the years to women (dishonesty, sleeping around, betrayal, debasing, belittling) needs to be called out. Sam is a good mother and a good person (under the circumstances that you created) and I know deep down you know that. For you to try to label her as “unstable” for your own advantage is despicable and abusive. Is there any sense of decency left in you? She did not ask for or deserve any of what has come to her by your hand. Neither did Meredith. I know you think this is one big competition and that we have taken her side… bunk… we are on the side of good and that is not you. (Go ahead and call me self-righteous, I dont’ care) Don’t you dare run to her and cry foul that we shared with us… that’s what babies do. It’s time for someone (I wish it was a strong man) to stand up to your abusive behavior and call it out, especially against women We still love you, but we are broken by your behavior and lack of character. I don’t want to write emails like this and never thought I would. If it damages our relationship further, then so be it, but at least I have said my piece. [Redacted] And yes, we are praying for you (and you don’t deserve to know how we are praying, so skip the snarky reply) I don’t want an answer to this… I don’t want to debate with you. You twist and abuse everything I say anyway. But… On behalf of all the women (and I know it’s many) you have abused in some way, I say… get some help and take an honest look at yourself… Mom " ---------------- but yeah, she afterward had regrets about the email, but not exactly comments that come from nowhere (& consistent w/ the descriptions of his behavior in the police report)
murder Member	Sat Nov 30 12:25:39 Gotta love torching your son and then signing it "mom". :o)
murder Member	Sat Nov 30 12:27:48 "It’s time for someone (I wish it was a strong man) to stand up to your abusive behavior and call it out, especially against women" Not so subtly implying that she wished some guy would beat his ass. lol :o)
Rugian Member	Sat Nov 30 12:57:08 Mom sounds like a right cunt.
murder Member	Sat Nov 30 13:41:00 And he sounds like he fits right in with the Trump administration.
obaminated Member	Sat Nov 30 14:19:50 So. Family drama. I guess you guys have never had arguments with family members where you say something you later regret. I wonder how the times got the email. She must have sent it to other people since she has since taken it back (so she being the unlikely person to leak the personal email).
obaminated Member	Sat Nov 30 14:20:52 I mean shit. How many anti trumpers have basically quit their families over drama. You think they won't regret that shit down the road?
murder Member	Sat Nov 30 15:03:59 "So. Family drama. I guess you guys have never had arguments with family members where you say something you later regret." As a matter of fact ... no. "I mean shit. How many anti trumpers have basically quit their families over drama. You think they won't regret that shit down the road?" No.
obaminated Member	Sat Nov 30 18:41:40 Well murder. I (i suspect many others) don't think you have the emotional maturity to understand the concept of having regret for saying things in the heat of anger.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 30 19:08:51 having regret doesn't mean you didn't mean what you said... it's just 'well i have to accept it as you're my kid' just the "I have tried to keep quiet about your character and behavior...", it was obviously a long simmering disgust of her horrible son
murder Member	Sat Nov 30 21:56:23 "Well murder. I (i suspect many others) don't think you have the emotional maturity to understand the concept of having regret for saying things in the heat of anger." No, I have the emotional maturity to not say hateful/hurtful shit to the people I love. Grown men don't destroy relationships unless they mean to.
murder Member	Sat Nov 30 22:04:00 "... it was obviously a long simmering disgust of her horrible son" You can tell that he's gone at her before by some of the things she said. "I am not a saint, far from it.. so don’t throw that in my face,." "Go ahead and call me self-righteous, I dont’ care" "If it damages our relationship further, then so be it ..." "And yes, we are praying for you (and you don’t deserve to know how we are praying, so skip the snarky reply)" "I don’t want to debate with you. You twist and abuse everything I say anyway." She's anticipating his replies, because this clearly isn't her first rodeo with him.
Rugian Member	Mon Dec 02 13:49:49 "Hegseth forced out of vets groups due to drinking, misconduct: New Yorker by Ellen Mitchell - 12/02/24 2:19 PM ET Pete Hegseth, President-elect Trump’s pick to lead the Pentagon, was forced to step down by both of the two nonprofit advocacy groups that he ran due to mismanagement of funds, sexual impropriety and reports of intoxicated behavior, The New Yorker reported on Sunday. The incidents — relayed in a trail of documents and corroborated to The New Yorker by the accounts of former colleagues — took place prior to Hegseth becoming a full-time Fox News TV host in 2017. The publication cited a previously undisclosed whistleblower report on Hegseth’s time as the president of Concerned Veterans for America (CVA). That seven-page report, which chronicled his 2013 to 2016 tenure, describes him as being repeatedly intoxicated while acting in his official capacity and sometimes needing to be carried out of the organization’s events. The report had been created by multiple former CVA employees and sent to the organization’s senior management in February 2015. Among the most damning allegations, Hegseth was so intoxicated he had to be physically stopped from joining dancers on the stage of a Louisiana strip club, where he had brought his team in November 2014. Two people who told The New Yorker they had contributed to the report said they had seen Hegseth drunk numerous times and on multiple occasions dragged away or carried from one location to another because he was so intoxicated. In one complaint in the report, describing a CVA event in Virginia Beach on Memorial Day weekend in 2014, Hegseth was seen as “totally sloshed” and had to be carried to his room because “he was so intoxicated.” The next month at an event in Cleveland, Hegseth went with his team to a bar near their hotel and got “completely drunk in a public place,” with “several high profile people” who were in attendance “very disappointed to see this kind of public behavior,” according to the report. The report also says that Hegseth — at the time married to his second wife — along with other members of his management team sexually pursued the CVA’s female staffers and created a hostile workplace that ignored serious accusations of sexual assault or harassment. And in a separate letter of complaint sent to CVA in late 2015, another former employee said a drunk Hegseth was aggressively chanting “Kill All Muslims! Kill All Muslims!” at a Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, bar early on May 29, 2015, while on official business in the state. Timothy Parlatore, Hegseth’s lawyer, told The New Yorker that “an advisor” to Hegseth was not “going to comment on outlandish claims” laundered through the publication “by a petty and jealous disgruntled former associate of Mr. Hegseth’s. Get back to us when you try your first attempt at actual journalism.” Hegseth also reportedly drove the organization Vets for Freedom (VFF) into the ground financially. In 2007, he became president of the group, which advocated for expanding the war in Iraq and was funded by several Republican billionaire donors. But under Hegseth’s leadership, the organization ran up enormous debt with money reportedly being wasted on expenses such as parties. The finances of VFF became so bleak the group’s donors arranged for VFF to merge with another organization that would take over most of its management, essentially forcing Hegseth out in 2012. http://the...tagon-pick-hegseth-misconduct/
Rugian Member	Mon Dec 02 13:50:56 So he likes women and booze and reckless spending and dead Muslims. He's actually the perfect candidate to lead the DoD IMO.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Dec 02 14:27:36 for the Trump clown show, i agree a Biff Tannen's Pleasure Paradise / Idiocracy combo administration
obaminated Member	Mon Dec 02 16:47:54 He sounds like a guy who liked to party. A decade ago.
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