Utopia Talk / Politics / Trump's upcoming appointments

murder Member	Tue Nov 12 13:02:16 ... are already starting to resemble rejects from The Apprentice. Qualifications? Who needs them? Things will be fine.
Paramount Member	Tue Nov 12 13:37:41 The only qualification they need is to be able to put Israel first.
murder Member	Tue Nov 12 14:25:38 You wanted him. Enjoy!
obaminated Member	Tue Nov 12 15:21:35 I love how murder is in denial and thinks trump is nominating people his voters don't want.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 12 15:50:01 the bulk of his voters have no idea what he's about... bad inflation so vote out the person in office (despite it being global & mostly covid related) anyway, Ken Paxton (criminal & traitor) is on the potential list for AG... (w/ Trump also demanding R's in the Senate let him ignore their confirmation on any choices) so that'll be great if he gets in... also wherever Kash Patel lands
obaminated Member	Tue Nov 12 15:51:24 Yeah tw, keep up with the cope, the bulk of people who consciously decided to vote for trump over kamala did it because they have no idea where he stands on issues. Because he is notorious for never telling people where he stands on issues.
murder Member	Tue Nov 12 16:21:34 "I love how murder is in denial and thinks trump is nominating people his voters don't want." Paramount is not one of his voters ... I think. And I'm talking about qualifications, not whether retarded MAGAts approve.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 12 17:43:10 "because they have no idea where he stands on issues" is he going to keep supporting Ukraine against Russia? (some R's claim so... that's his own 'party' & they don't know) are the tariffs real? R's go on CNN & claim just a bargaining chip & won't do them, yet he's relying on them to pay for everything (& believes they don't affect prices)... is he going to mass deport all undocumented immigrants? (as he promised the first time too) all his sycophants including Vance just say he'll 'start w/ the criminals'... yeah real controversial... is it going beyond that or not? if so, how is it going to work? we're already 'energy independent' (meaningless term) & that sums up the issues he discussed (not counting Palmer's dick size, electrocution vs sharks, whether hollywood actors are buff enough, what windmills kill, etc)... also, plenty of people don't watch the news at all & yes voted entirely on inflation=bad
Cherub Cow Member	Tue Nov 12 17:59:14 [tumblefagg]: "we're already 'energy independent' (meaningless term)" Tumblefag still hasn't learned about ESG. Sad!
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 12 18:50:37 Fox News host Hegseth will be Sec of Defense the "Great Elon Musk" & "American Patriot Vivek Ramaswamy" will lead a Dept of Gov't Efficiency (named DOGE to match Musk's crypto...) that'll work well...
Cherub Cow Member	Tue Nov 12 22:33:13 It will, actually. Ramaswamy knows about ESG, though, while tumblefag still does not.
murder Member	Tue Nov 12 23:55:47 Two fraudsters responsible for improving government efficiency? Sure, why not?
Paramount Member	Wed Nov 13 01:27:42 Pet killing woman, Kritsi Noem, to be the next secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. It doesn’t say whether she ate her pet or not, but she killed it. http://www...dog-to-lead-homeland-security/
Average Ameriacn Member	Wed Nov 13 01:45:39 Every government worker will be replaced by AI. The AI will be based on the books and speeches of Trump.
Habebe Member	Wed Nov 13 03:30:50 It's not about supporting Russia over the Ukraine. It's about stop funding and fighting someone elses forever war. The Ukraine offers almost no benefits, and is a parasite. Israel is overly parasitic as well.They do offer a bit more, but god damn, let them BUY the weapons. Help the EU? Sure, but while Seb will claim its transactional to not let someone mooch off you for decades. Europe is wealthy, they can pay, and contribute. As for Tarriffs, Trump loves them as a got threat to get nations to act appropriately. The US has given and given, unbalanced for decades. It's left us in a weaker position.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 13 11:13:34 Thune wins Senate Majority Leader over MAGA pick Rick Scott (alien wearing human skin), Thune is the least culty of the 3 up for it it required a secret ballot, but nice to know some resistance there... & a possible ability to successfully impeach Trump after one of the many impeachable offenses he will do
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 11:45:18 You're just gonna keep falling for the "good Republican" bit, aren't you?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 13 14:33:58 jesus... Matt Gaetz picked for AG that came out of nowhere... i guess not as bad as Paxton, but still awful (& both accused of crimes by their fellow R's)
Sam Adams Member	Wed Nov 13 14:45:35 They started off well but gaetz and gabbard are retarded.
Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Wed Nov 13 14:50:52 Cable TV is not the cream of the crop of competent leaders. This was pretty obvious during his first term.
Rugian Member	Wed Nov 13 14:59:13 Somewhere in the sunny hills of southern California right now, Kevin McCarthy is furiously making phone calls to every GOP Senator willing to talk to him. No way Gaetz makes it through confirmation.
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Nov 13 15:23:39 Ugh. Can't believe that Tulsi "Coneheads Teeth" Gabbard is getting an appointment as director of national intelligence. She is so Astro-Turfed and fake that it's painful. Even her Army Reserve status is fake as fuck, like she was looking at "becoming a career bureaucrat by numbers" and saw that military service helps, so she picked the most faggoty job she could find. It's just like how Biden's John Kirby was technically in the Navy but served as a glorified podium talker. I don't even trust Gabbard's turn away from the left, and it did not happen far back enough that she could have even learned her lesson — she'll just bring us back to the "glory days" of 2012 Bolshevism.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 13 15:26:38 "No way Gaetz makes it through confirmation" hence why dictator Trump brought up his demand for recess appointments already he wants his shitbags in & will threaten & intimidate or more to get it (plus he's already declared he can decide which situation "allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution"... yeah, i'm gonna keep reminding of that statement...)
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Nov 13 15:39:22 "dictator Trump" lol. this delusional faggot
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 16:34:36 I'm as shocked as everyone that Donald Trump would appoint ... *checks notes* A sex trafficker to be Attorney General. I guess Jeffrey Epstein was unavailable.
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 16:37:57 And I'm as shocked as everyone that Donald Trump would appoint ... *checks notes* A full blown Russian asset to be Director of National Intelligence. I guess that's convenient for Trump as he won't have to pass all of our intelligence back to Russia himself. It's always RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA!
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 16:41:23 Diddy is going to be pissed that his good friend Donald Trump passed him over for Attorney General. He's definitely qualified by Trumpian standards.
Rugian Member	Wed Nov 13 16:50:59 I thought even murder was above shilling blatant Hillary lies and propaganda about Tulsi. Guess I was wrong.
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Nov 13 16:53:40 [murder (left-wing dogma bot)]: • "A sex trafficker to be Attorney General." • "A full blown Russian asset" Your faggoty hoaxes have no power here. The charges against Gaetz were falsified, just like the charges against Trump. The Regime was trying to score a propaganda victory against Gaetz because he was coming up for midterms at the time. They failed, but useful idiots such as yourself keep repeating the propaganda. The "Russian asset" lie is also a pathetic smokescreen. They literally call Jill Stein a "Russian asset" just for existing as a Green Party candidate. The thought-terminating clichés only work on retards.
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 16:58:54 "The charges against Gaetz were falsified ..." He's STILL under investigation by the House Ethics Committee. :o)
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 17:02:09 "They literally call Jill Stein a "Russian asset" just for ..." She was at Putin's table with Mike Flynn. http://med...utin-flynn-dinner-jhc-1700.jpg When did you dine with Putin?
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Nov 13 17:23:18 [murder (left-wing dogma bot)]: • "He's STILL under investigation by the House Ethics Committee. :o)" • "She was at Putin's table with Mike Flynn. " Like I said, these clichés only work on retards. Gaetz is "under investigation" by Regime liars. If you think that the Regime has credibility and that charges themselves are guilt, then you are simply another liar and/or the low-IQ demo that liars love to manipulate. These immoral destroyers love to poison the well with procedural lies because they can count on retards like yourself believing that the allegation is itself a cause for distance. And the "[ermagerdz, this person took a picture with this other person!]" propaganda is pathetically weak and an old Soviet trick. Any asshole can take a picture with any other asshole; it's meaningless in itself. And I've posted the video in the past where Erin Burnett tried to use that obvious propaganda tactic against Stein, and Stein had to explain to the Regime propagandist that that dinner was not some kind of endorsement — endorsement being the Regime propagandist's liarly innuendo (CNN, 2019; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQKzkMkc1xI ). These things only work on retards. This is how a retard like tumblefag can have 51+ threads entirely built on innuendo and doublethink. When dealing with liars like yourselves, the rest of us simply realize that you are not even sentient.
obaminated Member	Wed Nov 13 17:29:50 Trump is stacking his cabinet with non-swamp youths. Hegseth and tulsi are great picks. They actually have seen combat and have served this country. They aren't 70 year old DC frogs who have been bought and paid for over the past 40 years.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 13 17:31:12 Gaetz' co-conspirator is already convicted & we have the venmo payments & other evidence... he definitely was sex trafficking what's not proven is the underage element
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Nov 13 17:33:51 [tumbletard (confirmed faggot, likely pederast)]: "Gaetz' co-conspirator is already convicted & we have the venmo payments & other evidence... he definitely was sex trafficking" Keep telling yourself that, faggot. Convicted by whom? Answer: the Regime. The Regime is set to lose power. Their falsifying of the truth has an expiration date. You have 68 days.
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 17:47:23 "Gaetz is "under investigation" by Regime liars." Because Democrats run the House, right?
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 17:49:43 "And the "[ermagerdz, this person took a picture with this other person!]" propaganda is pathetically weak and an old Soviet trick. Any asshole can take a picture with any other asshole." Yeah, she was just doing a rope line and Putin snuck up on her. *eyeroll* She is literally at Putin's table. She didn't get there by accident, and neither did Flynn. Have you dined with Putin yet?
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 17:53:02 "Have you dined with Putin yet?" What am I saying? You were probably his food taster for the night.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 13 17:55:39 Marjorie appointed to head the Ministry of White Power & Christian Indoctrination Hulk Hogan tapped to be Guy Who Pushes Dissenters Out Windows 1 of those not true (at least not yet)... same for the other
Rugian Member	Wed Nov 13 18:10:08 Gaetz just resigned from Congress http://www...aetz-resigns-congress-00189488
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Nov 13 18:12:11 [murder (likely pederast)]: "Because Democrats run the House, right?" Pathetic red herring. The obfuscation you're running is to distort the process to deflect away from who is running it (i.e., you're protecting the Regime). [murder (likely pederast)]: "She is literally at Putin's table. She didn't get there by accident, and neither did Flynn." Like I said, these tricks only work on retards. (You are retarded.) Here's a hypothetical, which will not work for you due to your retardation since retards fail at the subjunctive, but if the Academy were to sit you at a table at the Oscars with Harvey Weinstein, would that be proof that you're a fellow pederast? People with an IQ over about 80 can answer this question correctly. You cannot. (You are retarded.)
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 18:26:47 "Hulk Hogan tapped to be Guy Who Pushes Dissenters Out Windows" At this point Hulk might be the one who goes out the window. he's pretty messed up ... and not just in the head.
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 18:27:45 "Gaetz just resigned from Congress" Resigned under investigation. He'll breeze through his confirmation hearing.
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 18:30:44 "Pathetic red herring." CC: "Pointing out that I'm full of shit is a red herring. Everything is a red herring. Red herrings are JEWS!"
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 18:33:20 "Here's a hypothetical, which will not work for you due to your retardation since retards fail at the subjunctive, but if the Academy were to sit you at a table at the Oscars with Harvey Weinstein, would that be proof that you're a fellow pederast?" I'm not going to be at Harvey's table at the Oscars because I'm not running in those circles. There is less than zero chance of that ever happening. Same as with Putin.
obaminated Member	Wed Nov 13 18:45:16 Cc, murder wouldn't be at any table because he like tw and like cuckhat don't run in circles. You have to do things to be invited places. Murders social circle is probably his local south Florida dive bar. Tw doesn't leave his basement. Cuckhat doesn't have time to go out since he has to spend soo much time having orgies with his wife and her super model friends.
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 18:53:52 Speaking of pederasts, I wonder who is going to ask Gaetz about his son/not son Nestor who he adopted without paperwork when he was a 12 year old immigrant from Cuba.
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 18:55:10 "You have to do things to be invited places." Very good, obaminated! You do have to do things to be invited places. And what things do you have to do to be invited to Putin table?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 13 18:59:10 "Gaetz just resigned from Congress" two days before they were going to vote about releasing the ethics report on him... i'm sure it would've been very favorable... (no reason to resign already except to end that probe)
obaminated Member	Wed Nov 13 18:59:27 Probably be part of geo politics at a very high level. I mean, the entire reason the cold war never went hot was because the west and the ussr kept an open line of communication. Imagine what would happen if we did what you clearly want people to do *refuse to speak to our geopolitical enemies*. Again, I know you have the maturity of an angst riddled teenager so you won't be able to understand the importance of communicating with people you oppose, but thankfully everyone else does.
obaminated Member	Wed Nov 13 19:00:40 DOJ declined the go forward with anything. There is nothing there. But I'm sure there is embarrassing crap the democrats want to and would use to grandstand. It's smart to not give them the opportunity.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 13 19:04:03 R's have talked about Gaetz too like him sharing videos of his exploits (but i know you can't process that info)... & obviously R's on the ethics panel Gaetz' crazy unfitness is giving cover for Hegseth's lack of qualifications though
obaminated Member	Wed Nov 13 19:06:58 Showing off pics of a girl you fucked isn't illegal, tw. I know it's foreign to you.
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Nov 13 19:17:14 [obaminated]: "Cc, murder wouldn't be at any table because he like tw and like cuckhat don't run in circles" That makes sense. Anyone who has ever been to a state or formal dinner knows how random the seating can be (or how the person who sets the plate assignments may overrule any guest's decisions), but murder has never been invited. It's just a world that has no meaning to him, so the Regime can just lie to him with impunity. It's the same as tumblefag having no idea how documents handling works but being confident in Regime lies despite the warnings of those of us who have actually handled documents and know that they're lying. It's incredibly easy for the Regime to deceive these abysmal idiots.
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 21:23:57 "Anyone who has ever been to a state or formal dinner knows how random the seating can be ..." Yeah, world leaders and security all that take a back seat to random seating ... Do you even listen to yourself?
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 21:26:36 "DOJ declined the go forward with anything. There is nothing there." Yeah, he never got prosecuted for his houseboy either. What is it with Republicans and unofficial "sons" anyway?
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Nov 13 22:23:55 [CC]: "Anyone who has ever been to a state or formal dinner knows how random the seating can be ..." [murder (left-wing dogma bot)]: "Yeah, world leaders and security all that take a back seat to random seating ... Do you even listen to yourself?" What was the rest of my sentence, you disingenuous liar and piece of shit retard? Let's see: [CC]: "Anyone who has ever been to a state or formal dinner knows how random the seating can be (or how the person who sets the plate assignments may overrule any guest's decisions)" Yup. murder, being a disingenuous liar and piece of shit retard, omitted the rest of my sentence because it explains what happened there. I.e., even at state dinners, the plate assignments can be controlled by the the person who sets the plate assignments without the direct discretion of the guests — even high profile guests. Would this not include murder's faggoty use of "security"? Yes, yes it would. That's why he omitted it. Because he is a liar and piece of shit retard. And just for your knowledge, murder, you disingenuous liar and piece of shit retard, one fun thing about state dinners is that plate assignments will often put regular people next to high profile people. It's kind of a neat feature of attending these things. You might get to sit next to an ambassador, or a senator, or a president — even if you yourself do not work in their office. You do not even have to speculate about this or take my word for it. Just look at something like the White House Correspondents Association Dinners and actually try to see who is sitting at which tables with whom. Retards such as yourself probably just see one face at a table and think no more of it, but if you actually look at who is sitting next to 'this' famous person or 'that' famous person then you'll realize that a lot of the faces really are just random people, whether that be their direct staffers or staffers from other offices. This is done often intentionally by the plate assignments so that different offices can interact instead of just remaining in cliques. Offices typically have to make special requests to *deny* this if they do not want outsiders. I would bet in the case of Stein's appearance with Putin that she was simply placed at that table and didn't find out until she received the seating chart. They may have simply had a table with the highest profile guests. It's pretty common, but because you are ignorant CNN was able to deceive you. (You are retarded.)
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 22:42:53 In December 2015, Stein was photographed sitting at Putin's table at a dinner in Moscow in celebration of the Russian state television channel RT's 10th anniversary. http://www...mir-putin-war-criminal-1954965
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 22:47:49 I've got to give Jill Stein credit for trying to downplay a meeting with Putin by asserting that no, she was just there to celebrate the 10th anniversary of a Russian state propaganda outlet. lol :o)
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Nov 13 22:58:17 Because you are a retard in a cult, you probably still have not watched the video link I posted. You're also too retarded to realize how out of your depth you are. As I keep telling you, being a mental weakling is the reason you have your ideology. You did not select it; it selected you.
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 23:00:47 More Jill Stein randomness ... http://enc...8kRiqyDpErvpy7xItz8csd1EMCSA&s
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 23:06:15 But enough about that Russian asset. The Russian asset of the day is Tulsi Gabbard. And she's apparently really concerned about Japan rearming. http://www.instagram.com/tulsigabbard/p/C0i-vjrr8U0/ Perfectly natural.
murder Member	Wed Nov 13 23:15:26 This would be a great time to test out that absolute presidential immunity that SCOTUS manufactured.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 13 23:20:32 it was pointed out as Matt Gaetz was just re-elected his resignation may only apply for the next couple months (so even more obvious just to try to kill that report)
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Nov 13 23:22:40 We can see in murder the kind of circular cult illogic that ensnares a tumblefag type. After all the practical reasoning which shows that Stein is not a "Russian asset" and all of the exercises that show that the "Russian asset" talking point is just some DNC/Clinton nonsense designed to ensnare low-IQ useful idiots, murder goes right back to obediently following these same Regime scripts. This is why these useful idiots are always afterwards discarded by the slave revolt. Does anyone truly think that a tumblefag or murder-tard will live a normal life at any point in the future? Of course not. They are a doomed species.
murder Member	Thu Nov 14 11:47:07 I'm a little disappointed that Trump hasn't appointed Satoshi Nakamoto as Secretary of the Treasury yet.
obaminated Member	Thu Nov 14 12:27:35 http://www...?ico=article_preview_xp_mobile Libs and DEI hires are shitting their pants at the prospect of Hegseth coming and replacing them all with combat experienced warriors. Hahahaha
patom Member	Thu Nov 14 12:36:38 What has Trump rewarded MT Greene or Boebert with? Will they be assigned to manage the Gulags?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 14 12:48:14 "at the prospect of Hegseth coming" Hegseth has no experience or qualifications to lead a massive gov't department... also, you idiots who don't want politicized military celebrating putting in a Fox News pundit... & don't want a politicized/weaponized DOJ, but putting in Trump (who did it before & ran on doing it again) & celebrating fellow criminal clown Matt Gaetz as AG... (oh wait, you DO want a weaponized DOJ... to get revenge on Biden supposedly doing it... two wrongs make a right as the Bible says?... even though no real evidence of the first wrong (J6 committee hearings showed the crimes & recommended charges (but of course you can't watch those), docs case has a clear timeline where Trump could've easily avoided charges by doing what anyone else would've done (but you can't look at those details either)... & those are the only 2 DOJ cases against Trump)) so insane
murder Member	Thu Nov 14 12:56:08 "What has Trump rewarded MT Greene or Boebert with? Will they be assigned to manage the Gulags?" They get to polish his shroom.
obaminated Member	Thu Nov 14 14:15:07 Hegseth is an outsider and isn't an establishment character, this is bad ! - tw completely wrong and it's gonna be wonderful to see tw meltdown as hegseth totally tears apart the lgbtq agenda, DEI hire and general incompetence in the pentagon.
Seb Member	Thu Nov 14 14:34:49 Habebe: "transactional to not let someone mooch off you for decades." I'll remind you of that when the EU comes for your digital services.
Seb Member	Thu Nov 14 14:36:07 You are also so so wrong about Ukraine. So odd to watch a country give up on global hegemony and the economic power that comes from it.
Seb Member	Thu Nov 14 14:40:12 Nobody thought the US answer to escaping the Thucydides trap was just for it to meekly retreat from the global stage and give it all over to China, Europe and Russia.
obaminated Member	Thu Nov 14 15:01:01 Seb fails to understand or rather doesn't want to understand that it isn't the 1980s anymore. The US can't run the world like it used to and we don't need to. We are still an economic powerhouse compared to any other country but we can't expect China to do whatever we tell it to do, because they don't need to listen. Same with Russia. Trump and his crew understand this. Entrenched swamp dwellers like Cheney refuse to understand this.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 14 15:20:24 continuing his selection process of no actual qualifications (beyond they praise him through the television): RJK Jr nominated for Sec of Health & Human Services
murder Member	Thu Nov 14 15:28:40 Trump is basically handing out major posts like most Presidents do ambassadorships. Are you a supporter? What job do you want? Qualified? Who cares?!
murder Member	Thu Nov 14 15:30:46 "Trump and his crew understand this." Trump is chickenshit.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 14 15:45:56 i prefer people i've never heard of as they're doing some job in the field they get selected to rather than they talk on TV but that's just me
obaminated Member	Thu Nov 14 16:03:11 Tw, what qualifications does our current HHS have for the job?
Seb Member	Thu Nov 14 16:09:19 Obaminated: "We are still an economic powerhouse compared to any other country..." Because you sit atop a global system that's designed to privilege your currency and capital markets which the rest of the free world accepts as part of the post war settlement. You are about to pull the rug from under it. You are like the Brits in the 1950 that thought the UK economy was what allowed empire and so could persist without it, rather than a consequence of Empire AV would substantially dissipate. You can prop up Ukraine with your surplus weapons indefinitely at no real cost. The choice not to is insane because the result is nobody trusts US security guarantees, which means there's no real consequences for ignoring US foreign policy and pursuing national interest first and foremost. Which means a lot of the power of e.g. sanctions are gone. You'll have to rely a lot more on hard power, but the whole motivation for this disengagement is a lack of appetite to use hard power. Meanwhile, you've effectively created your first oligarch. US trajectory seems similar to post communist Russia at this point. You've let the rent seekers take over the executive, and the legislature and justiciary are in personal hock to the current office holder. They are going to pillage the US economy. They might be a bit smarter about it than the Russian siloviki. Anyway, it doesn't really matter at this point. You'll start to see the rest of the world just writing the US off and moving on.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Nov 14 16:32:34 Seb is correct and it is absolutely crazy that so many of you Americans do not understand the foundation of your prosperity is intrinsically tied to telling Russia, China and everyone else to behave.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Nov 14 16:47:19 That and all the tech companies. Of the worlds top 10 most valuable companies 8 are American and of those 7 are tech and just 1 is an investment firm. Dont get me wrong our finance sector is powerful but its the Microsofts and googles that drive us over the edge. Especially when europe has so much red tape its nearly impossible to start anything. Makes it really easy for us.
Seb Member	Thu Nov 14 17:05:44 Sam: Indeed. All the tech companies that are allowed to extract a huge stream of wealth through trade and IP laws. There's nothing at all difficult in what Amazon and Google do, just huge network benefits from scale and the ability to buy out competitors and your govt is about to start a trade war with Europe that has long had an eye on measures to create space for domestic competitors, prevent foreign buyouts and acquisition and bring that activity in shore.
Seb Member	Thu Nov 14 17:13:34 This is what I mean - having substantially dismantled your industrial base, a huge chunk of your prosperity is based on platform business models (finance and tech) that work primarily due to being first to scale, lax anti-competition rules, and are protected by international trade deals provide highly favourable access and taxation regimes. Dismantle the latter, they get cut out of overseas markets and replaced. Cf. how quickly China displaced US tech firms domestically and then went on to compete so successfully you needed to pressure allies to cut them out of global markets under security concerns. How's that going to work next time in a world where the US isn't in NATO? The saddest thing is it's now pretty much irreversible. It's not "oh no, it's not a democrat", the issue is reelecting Trump confirmed the US no longer had the ability to form an enduring political consensus. Nothing any individual administration matters that much any more, the next one will change it.
Seb Member	Thu Nov 14 17:20:07 Trump is going to whack import taxes on Europe expecting the EU to offer up concessions. Instead what he will find is that actually, the EU will see that as the opportunity to go after the US tech industry as part of the strategic autonomy strategy France is pushing. If the costs are sunk anyway. Ditto for NATO, we've already seen the headlines "if you regulate twitter, we will pull out of NATO". I suspect the commission will shrug: "peut-être, mais vous ne vous battrez pas de toute façon, alors peu importe?"
Seb Member	Thu Nov 14 17:21:45 That's the real tragedy: it's not Trump that's seen as the problem. It's really all about the Habebes and Rugians and Sams.
obaminated Member	Thu Nov 14 18:14:55 Tw won't be able to explain why he opposes rjk but had no problem with becerra. Fyi. Anyways, big pharma is against rfk. So you find yourself in good company tw and murder! http://www...genda-vaccines-food-water.html
williamthebastard Member	Thu Nov 14 20:00:46 The entire rest of the West no longer dares share sensitive info with the USA. Theyll pretend to, to avoid revenge acts by the USA, but no way are they sharing sensitive info with a pro-Putin USA
obaminated Member	Thu Nov 14 20:10:58 Gaetz is in trouble. Don't think he will last the weekend if this new woman's claims are credible and provable.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Nov 14 20:11:19 "There's nothing at all difficult in what Amazon and Google" Then why have you been unable to do it? At all. With any company in tech? Lol losers.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Nov 14 20:14:09 Of course youll share info with the us wtb. What are you going to do instead? Defend yourself? Ahahahahahahaha! You'll be begging for is protection, like always.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Nov 14 20:14:32 Us protection
Sam Adams Member	Thu Nov 14 20:21:47 Can you imagine an army of sebs, jerguls, and wtbs not just working at all, but doing the dangerous and dirty job of soldiering? Lmfao. And do you think your young men would do your fighting instead? After calling them racist, evil, and trying to destroy their lives and nations for the last 20 years? Maybe you can get some somali imports to fill your ranks.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 14 21:14:12 “what qualifications does our current HHS have for the job?” working in gov’t and with Congress, plus lack of healthcare experience was a complaint against him... now Trump doing ‘hold my beer’... head of departments isn’t an entry level job though I’m not that concerned about RJK... Gaetz, Gabbard and Hegseth far worse Trump has also named his personal lawyer as deputy AG (the scowling guy in the background when Trump was lying to the press after trial days)... poor Rudy couldn’t get a job or even paid
TheChildren Member	Thu Nov 14 22:04:47 low iq government 4 low iq peoples
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 15 01:49:03 actually, Trump has appointed -three- of his lawyers to positions... I wonder if doing that in lieu of paying them (certainly he’s never paid them his own money... if any paid, would’ve been campaign or RNC money)
Seb Member	Fri Nov 15 04:27:09 Sam: "Then why have you been unable to do it? At all. With any company in tech" Because every time a European company finds a market fit that could scale, they get acquired by an existing US firm. Cf. Deep Mind I literally just explained that to you. There's a number of ways to address that, making it harder for us firms to make sales (e.g. adverts often) in the EU, making it harder for us firms to make acquisition in the EU. BTW, you might want to check out the provisions in the EU anti-coercion instrument. One of the retaliatory provisions is the suspension of IP rights. "What are you going to do instead? Defend yourself?" You've already said you aren't going to do that, or at least enough to know that the likelihood is low. So it's not really an "or". We are going to need to defend ourselves, and since we know you aren't, and since you are starting a trade war, we might as well act in our best interests.
Seb Member	Fri Nov 15 04:28:33 Basically, whether we can defend ourselves or not is no longer a factor in transatlantic trade. Nor is a fear of retaliation given you'll be starting the trade war.
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 15 06:02:26 Seb, No, not digital services, whatever shall we do?
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