Utopia Talk / Politics / Democrats easy road back to power

murder Member	Fri Nov 08 11:07:39 Just toss the immigrants and the trannies overboard. Problem solved.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Nov 08 11:17:17 Dont even need to get rid of the immigrants. Especially now that hispanics suddenly flipped to the middle reps are going to feel much less threatened by it. Controlled migration of hardworking/law-abiding/high-iq migrants is not going to ruffle many feathers now. But ya, ditch the trannies, hamas, reparations and soft on crime bs, instead focus on income inequality... dems could bounce back super strong. But that would be logical so the odds of them doing it are low. Ritchie torres and feterman get it but thats 2 dudes in what is increasingly the howling cat lady party.
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 08 11:46:40 Yeah, the trannies turned off regular gays. What is a regular gay? A guy who like to suck dick and collect antiques, not wave his penis at 7 yr olds while reading alice in wonderland. There is a difference.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Nov 08 12:28:30 Ummm... lolwut
Dukhat Member	Fri Nov 08 12:35:42 This was no re-alignment. Dems downballot weren't blamed for inflation and somehow 4 out of 5 battleground states that Trump won also re-elected their democratic senators. Trump always fucks things up. The people who tipped the election to him just wanted to see their paycheck go up. If he shuts the fuck up and just takes credit for Biden's economy, he wil be very popular. But has that ever been Trump? Wasting money and time on deportations and Tariffs will make him deeply unpopular.
murder Member	Fri Nov 08 12:48:32 There are no Republicans left. Only white nationalists.
Paramount Member	Fri Nov 08 13:00:39 Nationalists running the country works great for Israel and Ukraine, why not for the USA too?
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 08 13:21:29 Sam, I meant to day EVEN regular gays, or lesbos. There was a big thing made about JD Vance saying regular gays on the joe rogan podcast.
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 08 13:26:43 Murder, All those minority white nationalists too? I mean, I am white (Hessian and English) and I guess you could call me a nationalist.
obaminated Member	Fri Nov 08 14:27:31 Democrats can't just drop every social issue they harped about since 2020. At least not the majority of them. We will see the more rational democrats have a significant rift with the hard left democrats who will refuse to accept the lgbtq agenda will never be accepted by normal Americans.
Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Fri Nov 08 14:33:29 In 2004 gay marriage cost Kerry the White House yet 2008 Obama won by a large margin.
obaminated Member	Fri Nov 08 14:40:38 Gay marriage did not cost Kerry the election. An incumbent war time president sunk Kerry's chances. Especially since the Iraq war in 04 was not nearly as unpopular as it was circa 2006. Especially since Kerry had voted for the war.
obaminated Member	Fri Nov 08 14:41:12 I mean to argue gay marriage was a defining issue in 2008 is laughable.
Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Fri Nov 08 14:57:16 My point is that you can't win every election cycle on a promise of denying civil rights.
Rugian Member	Fri Nov 08 15:54:35 "denying civil rights" = having teachers teach transgenderism to 5 year olds without the consent or knowledge of the parents IBTY, do you even understand how insane you sound?
Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Fri Nov 08 16:08:47 Harris never said that.
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 08 16:34:22 "My point is that you can't win every election cycle on a promise of denying civil rights." Atleast the left is realizing this now. Ppl like freedom of speech, bearing arms etc And I say this with complete sincerity and not attacking but the Democratic party is the party of 1. Censorship 2. War 3. Extreme identity politics. Latino voters for example IMHO are looked at from the left as 2d caricatures. They think some comedian making a joke would trump the cost of eggs and the prospect their kids would get shipped off and killed in someone elses war.
obaminated Member	Fri Nov 08 17:09:57 Yeah rugian, I don't think Harris explicitly called for teachers to be able to teach their students about why they may in fact be trans all without informing the parents of said students that there child is going through a mental health crisis. She never argued for that, she merely represented the party who argues for that behavior and did nothing to denounce it. She has however proudly proclaimed a civil rights victory in ensuring inmates, even illegals, are giving hormonal blocking medicine and even surgeries all at the expense of the taxpayer. Ibty has no problem with that.
murder Member	Fri Nov 08 17:54:02 "Murder, All those minority white nationalists too?" Yes, house niggers are white nationalists too.
murder Member	Fri Nov 08 17:55:47 "In 2004 gay marriage cost Kerry the White House yet 2008 Obama won by a large margin." Obama wasn't in favor of gay marriage until the courts crammed it down his throat. Now he pretends that he was for it all along.
murder Member	Fri Nov 08 17:57:21 ""denying civil rights" = having teachers teach transgenderism to 5 year olds without the consent or knowledge of the parents" Are those the same classes with the litter boxes for the underage furries, or the ones that perform the sex change operations?
Renzo Marquez Member	Sun Nov 10 04:41:05 Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ Fri Nov 08 14:33:29 "In 2004 gay marriage cost Kerry the White House yet 2008 Obama won by a large margin." Obama ran as an opponent of gay marriage in 2008.
Habebe Member	Sun Nov 10 05:16:23 ""Murder, All those minority white nationalists too?" Yes, house niggers are white nationalists too." The irony being of how many on the left would view me as the racist guy and not Murder here...
murder Member	Sun Nov 10 11:26:33 I'm not a racist, I'm a bigot.
Habebe Member	Sun Nov 10 22:58:33 Yeah, I get that. I chuckled at all these lefty US chicks saying they won't bang us anymore. Western women in general are just not desirable anymore IMHO. 1. Ive always drifted for some color in my females. 2. US/Euro/anglican women etc. Have alot of trashy values that are total turn offs. My best friend (haitian immigrant) Has been preaching the gospel of importing. He isn't wrong. Africa, Asia, SA etc. Mostly have better women for marriage material.
jergul large member	Mon Nov 11 05:25:24 More affordable to just go full incel.
Habebe Member	Mon Nov 11 10:31:23 I beg to differ. My time is valuable.I don't plan to waste it being miserable and not getting laid. Trump is back_Carthage must be destroyed.
murder Member	Mon Nov 11 10:47:56 "My best friend (haitian immigrant)" Best hide the dogs. Dear leader says Haitians eat dogs. "Has been preaching the gospel of importing." Unfortunately America is full. We have no vacancies. You and you're dog eating Haitian friend are going to have to find some other place to sex traffic women.
obaminated Member	Mon Nov 11 11:26:00 http://www...?ico=article_preview_xp_mobile Easy road huh? Called it. The dems will refuse to give up their insane lgbtq agenda and it will cost them elections and probably permanently lose otherwise consistent democrat votes among Latinos and the blacks.
obaminated Member	Tue Nov 12 01:22:03 http://www...?ico=article_preview_xp_mobile Stewart is full blown denial. But let them double down. Go further left! That's what the American people really want! That's why they turned out for the GOP is record breaking numbers.
jergul large member	Tue Nov 12 07:32:54 Careful. These things follow state lines. New countries might be founded further left.
Rugian Member	Tue Nov 12 07:40:27 I've said it before, but Jon Stewart might be one of the single most cancerous individuals in our modern political realm. This guy has singlehandedly peddled rank partisanship, gotcha "journalism," elitist snobbery, and identitarian politics to entire generations of Gen X and Yers. It disgusts me that I believed his bullshit "I'm just attacking who's in charge" claims during the Bush years. Dude's a fucking snake who is willing to use every trick in the book to charm potential converts to his cause.
Rugian Member	Tue Nov 12 08:06:41 "He had a message of hope for the party, pointing out how badly they'd gotten beaten in 1984 by Ronald Reagan, before their comeback in the early 90s with Bill Clinton." Yeah, aka when they pivoted away from the leftist insanity of the McGoverns and Mondales towards the relative moderate New Democratic movement. Using Stewart's analogy, the Democrats should have instead nominated Al Sharpton in 1992 and gone full Black Power mode. What a fucking asshole. He's speaking out now because he knows he'll be listened to too.
murder Member	Tue Nov 12 09:06:56 There's another extremely easy no cost tactic to help Democrats get back into power. How easy? This easy ... Stop reminding white people that within decades they will no longer be the majority in this country. Democrats LOVE bringing this up without considering how white people will react. Every single insane recent policy being advanced by Republicans and being supported by half the country > Building walls > Mass deportations > revoking birthright citizenship > trying to force American women (the majority still being white) to have more babies can be traced back to Democrats constantly reminding white Americans of the coming demographic shift.
murder Member	Tue Nov 12 09:12:18 "He had a message of hope for the party, pointing out how badly they'd gotten beaten in 1984 by Ronald Reagan, before their comeback in the early 90s with Bill Clinton." HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! "Yeah, aka when they pivoted away from the leftist insanity of the McGoverns and Mondales towards the relative moderate New Democratic movement." Both you and Jon must have short memories. The Clinton's arrival in D.C. with their New Democrat, "third way", cozy up to big business, become Republican lite, bullshit, is what led to the destruction of the Democratic Party.
murder Member	Tue Nov 12 09:22:50 Before the Clinton's, Democrats had controlled the House of Representatives for 58 out of the previous 64 years ... including 40 years straight leading to the "Gingrich revolution". Before the Clinton's, Democrats had controlled the US Senate for 52 out of the previous 62 years leading to the flip that accompanied the "Gingrich revolution" in the House. http://en....Control_of_the_U.S._Senate.png
murder Member	Tue Nov 12 09:27:28 Ever since the Clinton's arrived in D.C., Democrats have lost tons of governorships and legislatures all across the country. Scroll down to the bottom where they have the charts with the Historical party strength by year and check out the patterns before and after 1992. http://en...._party_strength_in_U.S._states
murder Member	Tue Nov 12 09:28:13 Jon Stewart deserves a punch in the face for that stupid comment.
murder Member	Tue Nov 12 09:47:22 When the Clinton's shifted the Democratic Party towards "the center" (to the right) ... Republicans responded by consolidating their gains, and then shifting the Republican Party even further right. The Clinton's drove a dagger into the heart of the Democratic Party and this nation.
Rugian Member	Tue Nov 12 10:29:20 You're right. Losing 49 out of 50 states (twice) is much better.
murder Member	Tue Nov 12 10:55:06 That's the presidency. Democrats controlled the House throughout the Reagan years, and controlled the Senate for part of them, and they controlled most of the governorships and state legislatures during that time too.
murder Member	Tue Nov 12 11:02:28 Governorships 1980-2000 1980 Dems 27; Reps 23 1982 Dems 34; Reps 16 1984 Dems 34; Reps 16 1986 Dems 26; Reps 24 1988 Dems 28; Reps 22 1990 Dems 28; Reps 20 1992 Dems 30; Reps 18 1994 Dems 19; Reps 30 1996 Dems 17; Reps 32 1998 Dems 17; Reps 31 2000 Dems 19; Reps 29 And Republicans have continued to hold the majority of governorships for 19 of the 24 years after that. Total complete disaster!
murder Member	Tue Nov 12 11:09:40 State Legislatures 1980 to 1980 Dems 29; Reps 15 1982 Dems 34; Reps 11 1984 Dems 26; Reps 11 1988 Dems 29; Reps 8 1990 Dems 30; Reps 6 1992 Dems 25; Reps 8 1994 Dems 18; Reps 19 1996 Dems 20; Reps 18 1998 Dems 20; Reps 17 2000 Dems 16; Reps 18 And Republicans have continued to hold the majority of state legislatures for ~ 16 of the 24 years after that. Total complete disaster!
murder Member	Tue Nov 12 11:10:48 Where the numbers don't add up to 50 there was a split in state legislatures or independent governors and such.
murder Member	Tue Nov 12 11:12:31 The fact that all of that comes as news to you should have you questioning your sources of information.
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